Why I don't give out extra keys or sell keys after you have bought a device from me. I am going to take you through step by step what a male did in order to get a key when he was not supposed to. It is a funny story...
(My response letters are in italics like this)
1. Dear Ms. Lori,
Helen locked me into my new chastity tube this morning. WOW !
Yours in complete chastity,
Tom
ABOUT ONE WEEK LATER
2. Dear Ms. Lori,
Helen was experimenting with the recessed locks on my chastity tube and is finding it difficult to insert the key properly in the screw. She will not permit me to assist as I am handcuffed whenever the "key" is not secured, so I can't help with the process. Helen says the correct "fit" for the key is very hard to find. Is there something she's missing here, or is this just something inherent in the design that she (and of course me) will have to live with?
Also would it be possible to purchase a third key in the event of damage to one of the supplied keys?
Thanks.
Tom
MY REPLY:
Hi Tom
The key is made from titanium and will last a very long time. It is the screw you must be careful with as the key will only fit into the screw one way. It should go in and snap if it is inserted correctly. If she has fouled the keyway in any way you will have a problem. They are set up to be tamper proof. On the market you may find keys that are similar but do not quite fit well enough to turn the screw. If you think there is a problem send the unit back to us, or just the key's) and the screw's) we will check them out for you. If they are damaged by not inserting the key all the way before opening the screws, there maybe a small charge to replace them. Send at least enough to cover return postage.
Ms. Lori
HE WROTE IN THE SMALL LETTERS MY ANSWERS ARE IN CAPS. ABOUT THIS TIME I AM STARTING TO WONDER!
3. Hi Ms. Lori,
Thanks for your reply to my question. I understand the "key" is made of titanium but what material is the screw made of? Stainless steel if it's of a softer material than the key won't it inevitably become defaced by the key? Not if you insert the key in correctly, it does need to be pushed in ALL the way. Also what effect will time and wear and dirt buildup have on the keyway? No matter what type of keyway lock or and other form of mechanical item dirt, dust, and wear is going to take a toll my locks are no different, if there is a problem with the screws you will need to send it back NOW so I can do something about it. I don't want you to come to me 5 years down the line and ask me to replace them for free. You can buy a extra key and a set of screws for $35.00 I guess what I'm really asking is what are the chances that I'm not going to become a permanently chastised male at some point? The down side to this is????? Oh, I suppose this would bother you. There is a way to get them out if there is a broken key or a fouled keyway. E-mail me if this occurs. You suggested that I send back the chastity, screws or keys if I have a problem, but if I have a problem there's no way of removing my chastity! I'm locked up as I write this, and I haven't mentioned this to my wife, but I worry that I may have to mention this to her! Then maybe what you should tell her is that you are afraid of the screws wearing out, so you should not over use them, no point of putting to much wear on them screws!!! Just leave it on. (smile)
Yours in chastity,
Tom
IN THIS NEXT ONE HE TELLS ME HOW HONEST HE IS, I AM REALLY WONDERING NOW.
4. Dear Ms. Lori,
Thank you so much for your very detailed reply. I give you my word that will not be coming back to you in five years time looking for "free" replacement parts! I am an honorable man and would not even consider doing such a thing. I may, however, take you up on the offer of buying a separate key and screws if I feel the originals are starting to get "cranky" Would this key also fit the existing screws or are they all different ?
Yours in chastity,
Tom
I WROTE:
Hi Tom
I was not suggesting you were not honorable. I only have one keyway for the security screws, They are all the same. If you, at this point wanted new screws and a wrench. They would need to be requested by Helen in a letter hand written to me. I could have furnished them if you would have wanted them when you first bought the device. But to send a key I would not do without a letter. Understand each device is custom made, so you would need to send your device back to us to have the screws fitted. The screws are turned down to fit your device. We could turn the screws down without the device but I could not assure you they would properly fit. We do this so you cannot swap out the screws for some other keyway screw and have a wrench to fit your device. You may find my practice of security annoying, but this is why we are #1 when it comes to a secure chastity device.
Ms.Lori
OH OH IT SEEMS LIKE HE IS GETTING ANGRY.
5. Hello Ms. Lori,
I'm not sure I completely understand your last e-mail to me. I was requesting to know how much a replacement set of screws and "key" would cost. It seemed that you were saying that I could not order these items and you would only accept correspondence from my wife Helen, is this correct? After all, I was the one who paid for the device!
I have a feeling that I have let Pandora out of the box, as Helen has embraced her new found power with glee; she has already added a week on to my initial one month lock up for minor transgressions! The fit of my chastity tube is perfect! There is no soreness anywhere and it is quite comfortable. On my 9th day under lock and key, except for erections that can be VERY uncomfortable.Hoping I've got your intent wrong re the key and screws
Yours in chastity,
Tom
HMMM!!! TIME TO PUT MY FOOT DOWN
I WROTE:
Hi Tom
I have a reputation to keep. So I want you to understand something. I make and sell the most secure chastity device being made in the world today. Just one of the reasons it is so secure is because of my locking systems. Ladies all around the world depend on me not to send there sub an extra key. If there was going to be a concern that two keys were not enough, you should have ordered more to start with. If there is a problem with the screws you can send your device back to me and I will gladly replace them, screws come in a set of one wrench and two screws $35.00, They have to be special made in order to fit your custom made device. This keeps you from removing them and replacing them with new ones you have a key to. I keep all old e-mails and I usually review them before answering concerns like yours. You were worried that your keyholder might damage your wrenches. If that is all the concern you have there should be no problem with your keyholder writing me a letter in her own handwriting requesting I sell additional keys or screws to you. In this e-mail you suggest you want a key to be free. This is what I thought from the very first e-mail. If I just sent everybody a key that asked for one. It would not be a secure device now would it? You said: After all, I was the one who paid for the device!
I sold you the device just like you ordered it. Would it have been simpler for me to "just say no" to selling you any key? I am beginning to think so. It is like I explained to you before; the keys are made from tritium and are made for a lifetime of use. The danger is in tampering with the screws as they are a softer metal. The wrench should go all the way into the head of the screw and kind of snap in, before turning the wrench to tighten the screw. The wrench will only fit in one way. If this is not happening you should return the device to me so I can take care of any problems I will go as far as replacing the screws or the wrenches if they are damaged, for free in the first thirty days. Just take care of opening and closing your device and everything will be fine.
Ms.Lori
IT’S GETTING DEEP NOW!!
Dear Ms. Lori,
Sorry, I've misplaced your address in Broadbent, OR. (so Helen can send her letter to you) can you e-mail me same ?
Thanks,
Tom
AT THIS POINT I RECEIVED A LETTER REQUESTING I SELL HIM A KEY, IT IS SIGNED Helen. I LOOKED IN HIS FILE AND THE LETTER WRITTEN DOES HAVE A NICE FLOW TO IT, HIS ORIGINAL ORDER WAS DONE IN HIS HANDWRITING MATCHING THE LETTER REQUESTING THE KEY. I KNEW THEN HE WAS TRYING TO PULL ONE. TIME TO CHECK WITH THE KEY HOLDER. (SMILE)
HERE IS HIS KEYHOLDERS E-MAIL (HIS WIFE)
To: Lori Lancer
From: Helen
I accidentally came across some of Tom’s correspondence with you (he left the site open unintentionally) and I can assure you I did not write any letters addressed to you! I do not want him to ever have access to a key, and I intend to confront him this evening for this unauthorized communication with you! Please let him know via hotmail that you will not be selling him any keys....ever! I will be watching him all evening to see his response when he reads your reply! I can tell you he is going to be one sorry sub tonight. He just earned himself an additional three months
Helen
I DID NOT CONTACT ANYONE, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST WAIT IT OUT.
HERE IS HIS NEXT E-MAIL
6. Hi Ms. Lori,
Just wondering if you have the combination lock box back in stock yet ?(it was not included with my chastity) Also have you received Helen’s letter yet that will permit me to purchase a replacement key and set of screws ? (The letter was mailed quite awhile ago)
Yours in chastity,
Tom
TIME FOR Tom TO FIND OUT HIS FATE:
HI TOM
The lock boxes are still on backorder, I had not realized they had not come in yet. I will track them tomorrow. The letter I received was not from Helen, it was done in your own handwriting. You made your order out in your handwriting; it was very simple to see you were the one who wrote the letter. I also have an e-mail from Helen that states you are not to get any keys under any circumstances. It was as I suspected you were trying to get an unauthorized key. Helen knows you tried to do this. I would strongly suggest you get ready to do a lot of butt kissing. PLEASE DO NOT EVER ASK ME FOR A KEY AGAIN.
Ms.Lori
CAUGHT!!!
TOM'S E-MAIL BACK TO ME
7. Dear Ms. Lori,
Well, I guess your last e-mail explains much of my Helen’s behavior over the last few days. I'm not sure that I can withstand being locked up in my chastity for three more months (I've already been confined for over a month) The sexual deprivation and realization that my chastity simply will not come off without Helen's approval ( I've tried to take it off...obviously with no success at all) is making me a little crazy ! What can I do? I wish I knew!
Yours in (very real) chastity,
Tom
MY REPLY
Hi Tom
You asked what you should do. You are kidding right?? If you have not figured that out by now you will have figured it out in the next 90 days. It’s more like what you should not have done. You should be careful and do research before you buy a chastity device. I build the most secure device in the world today.1. If you wanted a toy you could escape from you should not have chose a Lori's. 2. You should not have tried to get a key. 3. You should not deceive Helen always be truthful and you really should be doing all you can to please her right now. She holds the keys to your favorite toy. By the way Bryan I am glad your device fits well.
Ms.Lori
SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE TRIED TO GET KEYS FROM ME CAN NOW SEE WHY I PUT YOU THROUGH WHAT I DO IN ORDER TO GET AN EXTRA KEY. THIS IS WHY A LORI'S DEVICE REMAINS THE MOST SECURE DEVICE BEING MADE IN THE WORLD TODAY. IT SHOULD ALSO ANSWER THE QUESTION: IS A RECESSED SCREW SECURE?? YES THEY ARE JUST ASK Tom. (SMILE)
Another Male Trying to Get a Key...
Dear Mistress Lori,
About two years ago to the day (tomorrow actually) I made order from you for a #6 curved PA device and subsequently received it a few months later. After a lot of trial and error, persistence, and a bit of minor dremel work we were finally able to install the device as we had hoped to: for 24/7 wear. Recently since then I have been locked up quite a bit by my Mistress, and have it installed for an as of yet to be disclosed amount of time. Somewhere along the way in the past two years the two keys that you sent to us has turned into only one. Mistress says can't remember where she placed the extra key, and I both don't feel too comfortable with having just one, especially in light of the fact that one has already "disappeared". I like knowing that there's a spare in case of an emergency. Is there any way for us to have a new key made? My device has the push-to-turn locks that you put a black cap on. Do we have to order all new locks or will the new one fit our old locks?
I wrote:
Hi James,
You would have to order new locks. I would never send you an extra key. I just do not do that. Your intentions are most likely very honorable but there are those out there that are not. I have no way of sorting this out. So my solution to the problem is to replace the locks with a new lock and different keyway. Locks are $35.00 each, shipping is free, I take PayPal www.paypal.com send to lori@dr.com or I can process your card by e-mail if you prefer. I hope my policy does not anger you. Please read article at http://www.chastitytube.com/keys.html. Maybe this will help you understand better.
Ms. Lori
Ms. Lori,
Boy I sure do feel sorry for that guy, and I guess that makes sense, but I'd really rather not purchase a whole set of new locks and keys, the locks that it came with work perfectly. I really just need a spare in the case of an emergency. If I remember correctly, the key we have for the lock has "214" on it. In the article, you said if Brian had his Mistress write a letter to you in her handwriting then you could send a spare. Could I do the same? I'll scan in the letter after she writes it requesting the key and then send it to you via email. I don't mind paying for the key, obviously.
Thanks,
James
I wrote:
Hi James
A 214 keyway was one of our old keys I don't even have any of these anymore. I think we are on 7015 now.
Ms. Lori
James wrote:
Ms. Lori,
Ok well I really need a spare in case of an emergency for this thing. Can you send me one of the push-to-turn keys that you are currently using and I will see if that works in the locks on the device I am currently locked in? I'm sure a key would only cost a couple of dollars, but how about I pay $35 for the spare instead of getting a whole new set of locks and keys?
Thanks
James
He is caught by his Mistress. This from her:
Dear Mistress Lori,
I have discovered this email trail by my submissive this morning. I am VERY appalled that my Sissy Submissive boy has gone to such lengths to try to get a new key from you! I have attached a picture of BOTH keys, as I have NOT lost either one. We have been together for almost three years and he has slowly introduced to me how all of this works and what the benefits could be in our relationship. I have been recently getting more into it and trying to take it to the next level. He has proved to me now time and again that he is not to be trusted in his plastic cage CB2000 and now not with his #6 Curved PA device. I need to know that you will not in fact be sending him a new key and request that his order be canceled. This is all still pretty new to me as far as what other Women would do in a situation like this when the trust of their submissive's has been disrupted as mine has time and again. He says that this is what he wants but then does something like this. I suppose that when a man's most precious thing to him he no longer has access to, he will do just about anything! How secure are these keys and are they able to be picked? I, at this point would not put it past him to now try something of that nature. The fact that he has now only been locked up for five consecutive days and he has already gone to such lengths has made it VERY apparent to me that my choice in pursuing this Mistress role is something that I am now more serious about than ever! If you could please respond back with any advice or links that I might be able to use to improve my knowledge and give me some ideas, that would be Fantastic! You can respond to my new email address that has been just now set up for better protection of this sort of information at AddressWithheld@xxx.com. I have copied my pathetic little Sissy Slave on this email so he can see that he has been caught in his TERRIBLY DESPICABLE attempt at trying to breach our agreement and so he can see that you now know how untrustworthy an email like that is when coming from him!
Thank you for your time
This was the last e-mail:
Dear Ms. Lori,
Well as you now know from the email Mistress CJ sent you this morning, she intercepted my email correspondence trail to you this morning as a result of my own carelessness. I cannot help but be reminded of how you did try to forewarn me by sending me the link to Brian and Katherine's story, and all I did was think how I was not going to get caught and that I could get away with lying to you and to her. I know Mistress is extremely angry and I am quite worried because this seems to have somehow just strengthened her resolve in stepping up her authority over me now. I have been ordered to email you and apologize for my behavior and for attempting to deceive you and my Mistress. Mistress CJ also pointed out to me that my lying and potentially getting a key from you for purposes of cheating on my vow of submission to her directly undermined the integrity of your reputation as being a provider of the most secure chastity cages money can buy. I am well aware of how secure this device is, because I did my homework and that is why I came to You and Paulie for our device. I cannot believe the mistake I have made, and I am so sorry, on so many levels for my actions. You are absolutely right when you said, "don't ask for things you don't truly want" ...because while I do want this, I am only now realizing what this really means.
James
This looked like it was a case of a lost key, but I was to find out he was just trying to cheat. I hope this e-mail will discourage you men that are trying to get a key from me. It just does not happen!!!!!